Meatpacking: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

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Ok? why did you feel the need to leave this comment instead of just not watching his videos

@Anurag Chakraborty i used to like his segments but his comedy just dont do it anymore unfortunately. Idk just my opinion

Why? This video doesn't have much of a political side to it.

If I may ask how?

@PB & J a lot of people don’t understand what social justice mean and believe it to just be “those crazy leftist Karen’s” social justice is just treating people humanely and abiding by societal standards.

As if calling out meat packing plants, for treating people inhumanely, isn't social justice

Well that’s his thing this what you’re watching now is social justice.

The situation is similiar here in Germany and Austria. To circumvent the work safety rules, the factory workers are sub sub contractors mostly from Eastern Europe.

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No, probably not, born and raised in Wa State, and my son worked, for a beef packing plant. He said that is exactly how it is. I am so glad he doesnt work there anymore.

@PB & J And keep in mind, that your very first message and attempt to debate this matter was made in the form of an ad hom attack, to wit, that I lack morals. These managers harmed nobody. Their wager did nothing to contribute to additional deaths. Not a bit. And if you’re honest with yourself, you wouldn’t be so ‘offended’ if the wager had been “The safety measures we have implemented should reduce Covid infections to where the number of people who contract the disease will be no greater than that of the general public contracting the disease in conducting ‘necessary only tasks’ in day to day life.” And they didn’t get fired bc the owners thought they were amoral. They got fired to appease sensitive, touchy-feely whiners in the general public so they wouldn’t lose profits.

@PB & J - You need to have your logic module checked. If I have no regard for life, why would I be pro-life? And so you are wrong. I’m actually pro-choice. Strongly so. In fact, not only did a girlfriend of mine have an abortion, but it seems that there was a second case. Not with the same girlfriend though. Just not sure. I honestly do not think abortions are that big of a deal. - Actuarial science involves the use of data in the calculation of the probability of given events happening. Golf tournaments offering cars for hole-in-ones lose no money when a player manages to put that ball in the hole from the tee. The organizers went to an insurance company and paid for an insurance policy. The insurance company that provides such protection KNOWS that hole-in-ones will certainly be made over the course of the season. And they also have data that predicts the likelihood of such an event. Perhaps they even use data about which players are in the tournament and information about each players dispersion patterns from the predicted distance of the hole. And they do the same thing with life and health policies. They look at data and see how likely it is for people to die. I remember when insurance companies offered lower rates for policy holders that didn’t smoke. They didn’t do that as a public service. This would draw customers to whatever company first did this,min the form of non-smokers. And the companies knew that these customers wouldn’t die as often. You can look at it as lowering the prices for those that were going to live, but they were essentially raising the price on those that were going to die. It’s called risk assessment. Would it have made your ‘feelings’ less offended if they had bet on the number of employees that would NOT contract Covid? Probably so, because your logic module is buggy because to get that number an analysis of death rates would have to be performed. And every company that decided to reopen DID THIS FUCKING ANALYSIS. Certainly not with the mathematical rigor that insurance companies, but opening up meant that somewhere, people were going to die. And they opened up anyway because if they didn’t they would go bankrupt. Sure, use masks, social distancing, et, etc, but things things were what they did so their ‘bet’ was a little better. Take this a little bit for it. You know that management had to have a discussion about the dangers of continuing their operation of their meat packing company. And this involved people likely dying. Change the question they asked themselves. Considering that they were talking about how “Well, XX% of our employees will not suffer any negative affects from continuing operations.” Another is saying YY%. Things get heated. One of the managers, the XX% guy, used to work in actuarial science for an insurance company. The YY% manager is a little douche that nobody likes, and is very ‘in touch with his feelings’. But he is also cocky and inherited a lot of money. YY: if we go with your idea and open up my figures indicate we will have YY employees die. XX: That’s bullshit you little douche. I worked in actuarial science for an insurance company for 15 years and the data says that XX% of our employees are going to be just fine and that means that your number of deaths is way too high. YY: you’re wrong. That’s just the way I feel. You need to respect my feelings. Don’t judge me. XX: Look you know we’re going to open back up. If we don’t do companies going bankrupt. Money comes first. And speaking of money, you touchy-feely asshole, put your money where your mouth is. I’ll bet you that that XX% of our employees will be OK and not die. There’s your bet. The touchy-feely douche got in the way of science and reality. He/she was the one that said, ‘Ok, no more than X people will die.’

@Bertrand Zerpersande: The fact you can type a comment, comparing human life, to simply a number. Shows your lack of regard, for any life......let me guess, you are pro-life 🤦

@Bertrand Zerpersande: Lol.....You should take your own advice, cause I doubt anyone following John Oliver, would agree with anything you said. And if what you say is true, insurance companies are truly placing bets on human life, they are just as bad as the meat packing plants. If you can honestly say you are good, with any of these companies gambling on human life, then, like I have said, you have no moral character.

@PB & J You continue to rant about moral character and yet support it with nothing other that an alternative spelling for a common fruit. Placing a bet on a number that one has no control over and doesn’t even attempted control is no different from betting on a roulette wheel or the guessing a lottery number. Insurance companies make millions of dollars ‘betting’ on your health and/or longevity. Want deplorable behavior? Let them deny your claim after taking your money. Go whine to somebody that gives a shit what you think.